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There is a battle going on in the world not many people know about. But there is a pretty large community of people working on alternative energy concepts that seem to violate some big laws in physics. Both camps acuse each other that they uphold or break the law just to gain a profit. Well, my money is on the people who haven't made any profit as of yet. Like this Stan Meyers who (also) died a mysterious death at a young age.





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scalarpotential, on 5/13/2006 8:03:38 AM
Total Posts: 15, Joined: 2/21/2006
Faster than light is a taboe and not complying with the laws of thermodynamics is a taboe. Everybody who has been educated in physics will have a very hard time not mentioning these taboes. But they don't really know, the have just been educated. They should understand (when they are older and whiser) that a law is true for a given situation. Trying to find out what needs to be changed in the situation so the law will not work anymore could be a research goal. But it is hard if you are educated....
Nikola tesla did claim he could supply free energy by collecting it from the ionosfeer using the earth like a dynamo....
This guy is saing that at right frequencies a pulsed dc electrolysis of a gas or liquid will produce anomalies. And he is not alone (see the 'Joe Cell').
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pr0cess, on 5/13/2006 9:24:41 AM
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What's strange to me is why nobody, not even the gearheads at MIT or NASA, are seriously looking into this. Think about it: a world of universities, R&D companies, NGOs, environmentalists... and not one of 'em has a working prototype of Meyer's engine. That's gotta mean something, probably that the concept is flawed in a way that makes production and implementation impractical or impossible.

The oil companies have some major muscle, but not as much muscle as the world's thirst for cheap energy. Had Meyer's invention really been viable, companies would have jumped at the chance to market it years ago.
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Thesilentclerk, on 5/13/2006 10:25:23 AM
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The problem that exists is more serious than just finding a new element we can combust the hell out of to make our cars go. Right now heat and combustion are the best we have to offer in energy extraction, even nuclear power facilities are just really large scale steam engines. In order to solve the rising demands for energy in today's market we need to first find a better way of extracting energy from a material. The bottomline is more money needs to be put into researching things like super high voltage phenomenon and ZPE and string theory, because understanding the way energy interracts on the subatomic level is vital to being able to utilize it in more efficient ways.
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StarMatrix, on 5/13/2006 4:28:01 PM
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@scalarpotential

You are teling me because I am educated I am less likely to believe free energy machines? Dude, why don't you dip into your pocket and invest in this bullshit then come back to me crying when it does not work.

Seriosly, faster than light is a taboo because you CAN'T, GO ahead TRY IT dipshit. As you accelerate the amount of force required to accelerate any object even in deep space is near infinity when reaching the speed of light, you could be trying to accelerate an electron and it won't be able to reach the speed of light. You could try to use the entire circumference of the earth as the path and power this magnetic field with 50 nuclear reactors, and the entire thing would collapse becuase the electron would literally weigh near infinity as it aproaches .999999999 the speed of light. You don't believe me? take a rock, bind it to a string, and then spin it really fast, do you notice how the centripical force is making the rock pulling your hand harder and harder outward? now imaigine spinning it at the speed of light, the earth wouldn't have enough force to keep it from trying to fly off before even coming close to the speed of light.

Thermodynamic laws are meant to be broken? you've got to be shitting me, there has yet to have someone break the laws of thermodynamics. Einstein nearly broke newton's laws, actually newton's laws aplied to einstein's laws of relativity, but einstein extended his equation to consider the bending of time and space near light speed. At low speeds newton was pretty acturate at ligt speeds, time slows relative to the motion of a slower object traveling through space. Everything it relative, there is no perfect place to observe time and space because all motion is relative.

Did you know that this instant we are traveling half the speed of light around the sun? But we are constantly falling around the sun accelerating constantly, we are not moving at constant velocity because we are changing direction as we are falling. Just like the moon. ANYWAY... I'm out peace.

You think you are so smart? try to build that machine then, I dare you.

Tesla is a god of science, he was the one hope for humanity, nobody in the world can match his briliance. If anyone were to make life better it was him. He didn't create free energy, he FOUND a source of energy on earth in the ionespheare, and he was able to absorb it. Just like we are using dikes to harness the power of water that's flowing down due to gravity.

If anything we can try to harness the pwoer of the ionespheare other than that ther's no way we are taking more enery out of water than we put in. It's a non efficient cycle, it's the law of thermodynamics!!!This is not some creationist science, it's natual LAWS that you can't just BEND with sheer mind power.
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Mooshaminkin, on 5/13/2006 4:48:20 PM
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Has anyone heard of an air powered car?
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pr0cess, on 5/14/2006 3:43:40 AM
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Yea, the pneumatic car. Think I saw a report on that one once. The car rolls using compressed air, and while it's rolling part of the energy is used to compress more air.

Not real practical though. You lose a lot of energy while compressing and decompressing the gas due to temperature changes.
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GrrlPower, on 5/14/2006 5:12:52 AM
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This is very old news. The water powered car was actually invented by Nikola Tesla and yes,it works. I bought an old junked up car that barely works but able to run,and converted it.Its valid tech,and if anyone is serious about it,I can send blueprints with complete intructions on how to do it. Just email me at cyclops75201@yahoo.com if anyone is interested. @pr0cess: free energy tech has VERY little chance of going anywhere. MIT,NASA??? Why would they care? Fossil Fuels are very polluting but to the world's powerful nations,they bring in so much profit it's unreal.Most of the world's national leaders have their hands so far in the oil pot,free energy sources arent going to see the light of day. Especially since petroleum is power to the lovely leaders of this planet.
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GrrlPower, on 5/14/2006 5:14:08 AM
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This is very old news. The water powered car was actually invented by Nikola Tesla and yes,it works. I bought an old junked up car that barely works but able to run,and converted it.Its valid tech,and if anyone is serious about it,I can send blueprints with complete intructions on how to do it. Just email me at cyclops75201@yahoo.com if anyone is interested. @pr0cess: free energy tech has VERY little chance of going anywhere. MIT,NASA??? Why would they care? Fossil Fuels are very polluting but to the world's powerful nations,they bring in so much profit it's unreal.Most of the world's national leaders have their hands so far in the oil pot,free energy sources arent going to see the light of day. Especially since petroleum is power to the lovely leaders of this planet.
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progressive, on 5/14/2006 5:34:35 AM
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You can actually buy kits to convert your car to water.
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StarMatrix, on 5/14/2006 7:09:22 AM
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Lol, who are you people? And no Tesla built an electric car, not a water powered car.

I have a feeling progressive/pr0cess/grrpower are the same person.

He used his famous wireless transmission to power his car using an antenna which he syncronized with a receiver. But I'm a bit skeptical about it though even though I did see wireless energy transmission in action in multiple videos, it's quite fascinating actually and it does work over short distances, you do need a big ass antena to increase the reach.
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