The Effect Of Bird Flu On The Economy

Is the bird flu a real danger or just an attempt to distract some countries' economy? Thoughts on all this panic.

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deanoj, on 6/6/2006 3:06:38 PM
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on china:

you can never know what happens to capitals or companies in the nex few years. you can only speculate.

on england

we will win the world cup.

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rawl, on 6/6/2006 4:57:14 PM
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China may have growth now, but they still have a massive population to deal with. It has to give somewhere. IMO, I think China, if it even makes it to #1, will soon have to contend with the massive population growth in order to sustain it.

The main reason they have that much growth right now is because the people in China are slaves. A good example are the coal mine workers in China who are treated with equivalent of like ~1930s workers from the U.S. coal mines.

China is irrelevant. What growth they have now will only postpone the inevitable Malthusian nightmare and resource wars that will come (women being a resouce as well :D).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe

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Fluffyudders, on 6/6/2006 5:47:15 PM
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Very interesting. Not only does it make me think about Bird Flu, and just how real it might be, but also makes me think about other things that have been brought up in the past. Anyone remember SARS?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS

This started in China too. It was all over the news for a while, and then disappeared. Have a look at the bottom of the link and you'll see a few effects it had on the Chinese economy there too. However they're just specifics, and I doubt the overall effect on the Chinese economy from the SARS scare will ever be known.

Other interesting thing about SARS can be found on that page, like that SARS stands for Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. Now I'm not a doctor, but that name doesn't really mean much to mean. 'Severe Acute' is an oxymoron which doesn't really make much sense, and 'Respiratory Syndrome' is about as vague as it gets.

Also, there are no definite early physical signs, chest X-ray appearances are 'variable', and best of all a suspected SARS victim will have a fever and have recently travelled from an area with recent SARS infection. So really, anyone coming back from China with a fever is suspected of having SARS?

Maybe someone with a better memory than me might be able to quote another similar case, perhaps a few years before SARS, that had a similar effect. I'll be interested to see what the status of Bird Flu is in a few years, and what new hype-idemic will be lurking just around the corner.

Shouted.

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packetraff, on 6/6/2006 7:39:40 PM
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"also makes me think about other things that have been brought up in the past. Anyone remember SARS?"

Not to mention the fact that Canada had a massive SARS concert (sarsstock) which was excellent. By the numbers alone that showed up for that concert indicates how little of concern our general population had for sars and the possibility of spreading disease.

And dont think for one seconds that our people were there to raise money for this 'disease.'

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riplikethat, on 6/6/2006 10:17:21 PM
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lol they just confirmed it here in India that the bird flu virus came from *you guessed it* CHINA!

Every infected country should now infect few birds with Cyanogen chloride or some other blood agent and send them to CHINA (just release them near their border).

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HeavenlyPunishments, on 6/7/2006 5:57:58 AM
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@Jacknape
You're no more right than I... like it's been said, it's just speculation until we're there.

I see your economical growth numbers and say woo... LOOKS they'll have some money... Does that change the other billion problems they have over there too? With such rapid growth they'll be sure to develop new problems as well.

sure china may have what it takes to be a superpower financially soon... that doesn't mean it will be one. and i severly doubt that it'll manage to become THE superpower of the WORLD.

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Nedsi, on 6/7/2006 9:07:06 AM
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Ok, it's not said that it should be the only superpower in the world. It will be one of them (actually it already is) together with the USA and Russia. Don't get so angry because of an opinion. Yes, China has already problems with it's economic growth, but anyway almost everything is now produced in China. I bought my new Motorola recently and do u know where it was produced - China. And I thought that Motorola was an American brand, but I was obviously wrong.:) Do you know that China has an army of 5 million soldiers. In comparison, the USA has 1,5 million. We shouldn't mention that it has nuclear weapons as well. It is also a member of G-7 (or the organization of the 7 most powerful countries in the world) and if China is not a world's superpower then who is???

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Nedsi, on 6/9/2006 5:32:48 AM
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The Story is : "Bird Flu"

$ Do you know that 'bird flu' was discovered in Vietnam 9 years ago?

$ Do you know that barely 100 people have died in the whole world in all that time?

$ Do you know that it was the Americans who alerted us to the efficacy of the human antiviral TAMIFLU as a preventative.

$ Do you know that TAMIFLU barely alleviates some symptoms of the common flu?

$ Do you know that its efficacy against the common flu is questioned by a great part of the scientific community?

$ Do you know that against a SUPPOSED mutant virus such as H5N1, TAMIFLU barely alleviates the illness?

$ Do you know that to date Avian Flu affects birds only?

$ Do you know who markets TAMIFLU?

$ ROCHE LABORATORIES.

$ Do you know who bought the patent for TAMIFLU from ROCHE LABORATORIES in 1996?

$ GILEAD SCIENCES INC.

$ Do you know who was the then president of GILEAD SCIENCES INC. and remains a major shareholder?

$ DONALD RUMSFELD, the present Secretary of Defense of the USA.

$ Do you know that the base of TAMIFLU is crushed aniseed?

$ Do you know who controls 90% of the world's production of this tree?

$ ROCHE.

$ Do you know that sales of TAMIFLU were over $254 million in 2004 and more than $1000 million in 2005?

$ Do you know how many more millions ROCHE can earn in the coming months if the business of fear continues?

$ So the summary of the story is as follows:

$ Bush's friends decide that the medicine TAMIFLU is the solution for a pandemic that has not yet occurred and that has caused a hundred deaths worldwide in 9 years.

$ This medicine doesn't so much as cure the common flu.

$ In normal conditions the virus does not affect humans.

$ Rumsfeld sells the patent for TAMIFLU to ROCHE for which they pay him a fortune.

$ Roche acquires 90% of the global production of crushed aniseed, the base for the antivirus.

$ The governments of the entire world threaten a pandemic and then buy industrial quantities of the product from Roche.

$ So we end up paying for medicine while Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush do the business.

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Tens, on 6/14/2006 3:23:45 PM
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Wrote this in another birdflu topic but:
we have invented a cure that stops birdflu from spreading, and next year it will be mistified on flocks of bird.
[though when fighting a flu virus, care must be taken as it is notorious for its adaptation ability]

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