fucking governmental motherfuckers, this is what pisses me off most, when they 'loose' so much fucking money, or worse, they spend it on some bullshit project which is an utter failure, yet we have people in the world dying from hunger.

@Jehovah

you have to be out of your mind? what are you smoking? send me some please...

SO let me get this straight, you believe that it was NOT right to go into in Iraq in the first place; because you have subsequently found out that your intelligence that you were given, may have just as well been from the back of a kid's placemat at hungry jacks. Yet it's not right to leave either; because you don't think that it is right to hand the country to the people that owned it in the first place???

Hell the UN didn't even support the USA's actions at the time, yet Georgie deployed anyway? Bottom line is that this whole debacle never had anything to do with the USA in the first place, except for the fact that the US stands to make billions from invading and taking over another countries resources (OIL.)

For thousands of years this race of people have been squabbling over the same shit that they are fighting over today. What right does the US have to go in and change their system to one that they believe to be 'best for the people?'

The answer is NONE... Get the fuck out of Iraq, i am sure that if China invaded the US tomorrow morning for 'shits and giggles' not only would you change your view point, but i am sure that if they were to overthrow the "democracy" that you love so dearly, that you would fight for communism too.

Because the truth is that people like yourself really have no idea what they want. The only reason why the USA is still in Iraq is because your leaders are too stubborn to admit that they were fucking wrong in the first place.

America are not the WORLD POLICE - That was just a movie... remember?

As for your morals and ethics argument??? god knows, you were right out of left field with that one, i think that i will just let you keep running. Maybe when you reach the edge you'll just drop off.

Aggressiveness has never solved anything. All it does is spawn a vendetta, to be settled at a later date...

Agressiveness has never solved anything: What about the colonists fighting the British for their land, which then resulted in America, of which the British are now good buddies with? Seemed to solve something.

World War II- Kept the jews, gypsies, and blacks from being killed in mass quantities as well as stop Hitler from winning his massive reality game of Risk. Seemed to help out a bit.

Hell, even animals are aggressive. They fight each other for territory and land. They don't kill each other for the most part, just joust a bit. Still aggressive though, and needed for the circle of life.

My moral analogy is right on par with what was said about by agreeing with the government, I become a murderer. His logic implies that by doing nothing about a situation, I am an accomplice. Doing nothing with a person's money to help people would then make a person with that money a murderer. His neglect or sheer unwillingness to try to help out with a situation that is partially in his control means he knows that someone who could of used that money will possibly die. Perhaps you are too disposed to disagree with me to see that simple equation.

My point on why we still need to be there is still completely valid. If we leave, the factions in the country will cause more death and destruction in order to vie for control then we do just sitting there. If you think that it is okay to let them strangle each other because that's what they do and we have no right to stop them from killing each other, that's fine and you are entitled to that opinion.

I'm sure that if you think your background as an "ob/gyn doctor" (according to your most likely humorously stated profession) has given you the correct skills and credentials to be judge and jury for these people whom you've never met, then I guess it's your duty to inform the masses of your decision.

Sadly, multiple countries have decided it is not in Iraq's best interest to be let loose. You should probably inform them, since they seem to be in control of that situation.

As an endnote, I am smoking Camel Turkish Royals. You should be able to find them wherever cigarettes are bought in sold. I will not give you any, as you have not informed me of your address, and I think the postage and mailing of the item in question is not worth the trouble.

Nikko-

I wasn't born when evolution was doing most of its business, as I assume you weren't either. But not that I am alive, yes I have been taking a piss when evolution was taking place, since it currently is still in full swing although we not be aware of it. I've even been sleeping, driving and fornicating while it was taking place, although luckily, not all at once.

But, I am happy to agree with you on your last point. Gree and aggression will destroy mankind, if we do end up killing our ourselves. And most likely, it is for the best.

It took all that banter back and forth to find something we could both agree on. :) And then there was peace again.