Spanking can be a powerful tool, but like all power, it can be abused.


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thePwninator, on 5/7/2008 10:51:22 AM
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GREAT ed bulshoy. So much truth to it. Now if we can get a bunch of parents to read (hopefully they're literate enough :-s ) this article, and understand it too.

Glad to see there are still some people in the world that give a damn about their kids enough to discipline them. Too many parents are far too lazy, or just don't give a damn.

This one guy I know won't even look after his own kids. They pay for a babysitter they can't afford. He can't hold a job. Wastes lots of time chatting online... for him LIFE = FAIL.

Sad.
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bulshoy, on 5/7/2008 10:54:18 AM
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"What kids need is responsibility."

Wise words. Personal responsibility is something that you must teach your child at an early age. Your child should be responsible for maintaining his own little world - picking up his toys, keeping his room tidy, etc. As the child grows, his world grows with him and so do his responsibilities.

That being said, hopefully some day you will have the pleasure of having your own little mini-me. When you do, you will find that there are times when you cannot rationalize with your child (especially a toddler). This is when lessons must be taught in a more authoritative way.

When your kid is not getting what he wants, he'll do whatever it takes to get it. You must teach your child that such behaviour is unappropriate and will have consequences.When all is lost, fear can be very persuasive if it is not overused.
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mrwomp, on 5/7/2008 10:57:07 AM
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flag had it right when he said "I realise my opinion means next to nothing but here goes."

i have 2 kids a 5 year old and a 7 year old as of today (happy birthday) one more on the way...

ive only had to spank them maybe 3 - 4 times in a 7 year period, like bul said it's not the pain it's just knowing that your dad the man who plays with you and buys all your toys and what not just hit you.....

great reading
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theclansman, on 5/7/2008 11:10:41 AM
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good article Bulsh, I live in Nelson BC which is a pretty hippyish area and so lots of people I know are against hitting their kids. EVERY single one of them has almost no control over their kids. I am not saying physical force is the only answer, but having seem a kid throw buffet food around the restaurant while his parents just sat there asking him to stop, I know that sometimes it is necessary to use a bit of force.
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NorwegianMog, on 5/7/2008 11:49:09 AM
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the timeout used to work back when i worked in daycare! if they fled the bad kid zone, you'd sit down and hold them tight and they'd go "i'm not bored, this is fun!", but the 'fun' only lasts so long! when they get bored and, even better, angry, you'll tell them why they're sitting there with you holding them! make sure they get the message, and hopefully understands it! worked like magix!

telling kids to stay put when they don't want to doesn't work! sit down with them, hold those rascals tight and say nothing except a few well chosen responses to their stupid remarks!

(and daycare turned me off this whole having children deal)
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bulshoy, on 5/7/2008 12:08:22 PM
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I also posted this editorial on thisisby.us. I can't believe the difference in reactions to it. That site is chock-full of snivelling holier-than-thou hippies.
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Flik, on 5/7/2008 12:17:39 PM
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BASHED BECAUSE BULSHOY ANGRILY BEAT HIS CHILD.
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geoluv, on 5/7/2008 12:34:43 PM
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Congratulations, you just taught your kid that hitting people to get what you want is ok. You basically validated violence to him, and at such an early age too.

What are you going to do to teach him that hitting other children is bad? Hit him?

Your child is developing a relationship with you as he grows, now you can add "fear of violence" to the list of emotions that he feels towards you, and trust me nothing brings father and son closer than a fear of violence.

You raise your hand against your enemies, not the ones you "love".
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bulshoy, on 5/7/2008 12:47:17 PM
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"You basically validated violence to him, and at such an early age too."

I don't know what happy, carefree lollipop land you live in, but here on Earth, violence is a fact of life.

Besides, it's not like he was mercilessly beaten, or even spanked more than once. I didn't teach him how to kill a man with his bare hands, nor did I tech him that one must resort to violence in order to solve problems.

There are people in this world who do not respond to anything else. Sometimes, no amount of logic or rational argument can get you out of a situation. A bar or high school are excellent examples.

Regardless, that's beside the point. My point is that spanking is an acceptable form of punishment in extreme situations where all other methods have been tried and failed. Those rules also apply to real life.

When all other avenues have been tried, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a spanking. Spanking as a form of discipline has worked for hundreds of years.

Isn't it interesting that in the last few decades, when spanking has fallen out of favour, that children are now totally out of control? Parents no longer discipline their children AT ALL, thanks to people like yourself who equate discipline with endorsing violence.
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otester, on 5/7/2008 12:48:14 PM
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South Park cover this.
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