Spanking can be a powerful tool, but like all power, it can be abused.


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cadillac60659, on 5/8/2008 1:52:25 PM
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actually when spanking doesn't work anymore THEN you use logic, take away things and such. take myspace, cell phones, xbox, and friends away from todays teens...
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gmc360, on 5/8/2008 4:12:22 PM
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I have 4 kids (you know how us Irish Catholics are).

Three run on 110v, and the other on 220v.

I haven't hit anyone yet, but my thinking is that hitting the 220v would only increase the voltage (more discipline problems, and there are plenty already). I believe that the VERY OCCASIONAL HIGHLY JUSTIFIED smack for the other 3 would go a long way in keeping the voltage regulated at 110v.

However, how would that play with the three who got smacked for violations when the 220v is acknowledged to do as bad and often worst more often?

Add to that the fact that 220v is a splitting image of yours truly and forget it ... does not work politically.

Everything in moderation is a good rule, even for spanking. But I will refrain due to complications noted.
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CapVosslar, on 5/8/2008 5:08:46 PM
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BEAT YOUR KIDS, HOLLYWOOD!
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WhuXi, on 5/8/2008 5:11:54 PM
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Beautiful, simple, and clear. I completely agree with this editorial. My father used much similar tactics on me and my siblings. We all turned out quite alright, and I learned out to not be a hellish child (which I could easily be in my youth).
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cindymoynat, on 5/9/2008 12:31:17 AM
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Excellent article!
I completely agree with you.
My son is 19 years old and he is a wonderful young man. I never had any kind of problem with him as a teenager.He doesn't drink, smoke, or take drugs. He is very intelligent and a bright student.He calls me "the best mom of the world".My secret? A lot of patience (raising a child it is not an easy task!),love, and...yes, spanking!
One more thing: I'm a single mom!
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walkngdude, on 5/9/2008 1:04:14 AM
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I have a 4 year and 8 and I never hit them. Sometimes I wonder if I do worse things.

My dad used to whip me with a belt and once grabbed me by the hair and drug me home in front of our friends and neighbors.

I saw dad drag mom down the hall by her hair once and after their hysterical fight he asked me if I would stay with him after mom left him and I said I'd go with mom (I was 4). I remember the sad look on dad's face. He felt he was a noble man, no one thinks they are a bad person.

Dad wasn't a bad person, just angry and confused and BIGGER than everyone else.

Lots of times I get angry and confused dealing with my wife and kids but I always feel that the sins or the fathers will be passed along so I take a lot of time at night just before I sleep not to pray to God so much but to focus my thought and program myself to be a thoughtful, non-reactive, insightful, understanding father and husband. After all the odds are against me.

I'm no one to ask anyone to do anything they don't feel comfortable with but when my kid got stubborn (don't tell me what I gotta do, I aint going to shit) constipation. I did a lot of reading and found kids around 3 to 5 years old have very little control over their lives even though they feel they should. The last thing there is that they have a chance to say "no" to after the giant "loving" controlling adults have left them no avenue to learn control to say no to food or pooping.

So not taking a shit can really f*ck a kid up so we gave him petroleum oil till he puked shit for a year strait until he learned shitting wasn't so bad.

So you know maybe not eating isn't so bad, If she doesn't eat she has nothing not to poop. LOL

Not eating is another control issue. Children this age need control so you say " oh no! If you don't eat your broccoli we will be so sad if you eat only the macaroni.

It's all on the Dora the Explorer level

Get Small, very very small bulshoy and try to be a man that your child, children's child and the dawn of Aquarius shines on us.

or not
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bulshoy, on 5/9/2008 5:45:22 AM
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Walkingdude, your comment reminded me of a saying that I once heard:

"The best thing that a father can do for his children is love their mother."
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GunWillTravel, on 5/9/2008 7:49:53 AM
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^ Amen.
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SpiritualWarrior, on 5/9/2008 1:18:30 PM
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Me? I was never grounded or had any 'time-outs'. My parents are Portuguese immigrants - hardcore Roman Catholic. They ain't afraid to beat the shit out of their kids.

Was I spanked often? No, not often. More often than not, simply threatening to spank me was enough to put me in my place in my youth.

In the semi-rare times I did get spanked, it was highly justified and I screwed up badly. I actually thank my parents today for spanking me. They taught me a lot of life lessons while disciplining me. No, not all those lessons came from spanking, though many did.

One day, as a whiny youth, I was complaining about how bad I had it in the family. I was complaining and whining about how I never got to do anything and how I was always treated horribly. My dad did something that I'll never forget for the rest of my life. It taught me to truly appreciate anything you have.

He said "Okay, well get in the car". I ask him "Why?". "Well, you don't like it here. I'm going to take you to live with another family". So not thinking he was being serious and to test him, I get in the car. He drives downtown to the Children's Aid Socirty (which, of course, at the time was closed for the rest of the day - the parking lot deserted).

So he stops in the middle of the vacant parking lot and me being a stupid kid didn't realize that the place was closed, was starting to get really scared. He told me "You don't like everything your mother and I do for you, so get out of the car, go right through those doors and the nice people inside will give you a new family to live with."

I didn't budge. I was too scared to leave my family, despite how much I wrongly thought I was being mistreated. My father, from that one day, taught me to appreciate everything that you have and not to complain about every little thing. It is to him I owe my discipline.

He kept me away from drugs - especially hard drugs - by constantly drilling in my head at a young age that drugs will screw up my life. He taught me to do well in school and to not be a complete dumbass with another life lesson. I remember we were at Wal-Mart once, getting school supplies for the upcoming school year. I had joked around how much I despised school.

He said "Let me show you something." He takes me over to the cashier and points to every one of them. "This is where you work if you don't go to school. If you don't have an education, you can't get a good job. Without a good job, you can't get money. Without money, how can you raise your family? How can you take care of yourself? I won't be around forever to take care of you, you know." From that moment on, I vowed not to be one of those suckers who hate school.

Every school year after that moment, I had achieved straight A's without difficulty. He was always drilling into me the importance of education, staying away from drugs, and many other valuable life lessons. He didn't spank me much, but when he did, I knew I screwed up badly. He made me realize that you only get so many shots in life. You can't screw up often.

That, I think, is the essence of good parenting. It isn't the fear of spanking, nor pampering your kids like little princes and princesses. It's giving them valuable life lessons they'll need to properly develop into law-abiding citizens in their future. The main goal is to ensure your child's success in the real world. Not to give them everything they want nor to take away everything from them because we all know that in the real world, everything isn't given to you and there are consequences for those who take.

I realize now how privileged I was to have such great parents.
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SpiritualWarrior, on 5/9/2008 1:32:27 PM
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I'd also like to add that my father did things for me I hated at the time, but now thank him for. He did them for my benefit. There was piano lessons. I was excited about them at first, but about a year or two in, I wanted to quit. He kept pushing and pushing me on. He knew how much piano would help me. Now I thank him for it. I can play three different instruments and love them all. Unfortunately, I had to quit piano when I was 14 years old because my father died because my mother wasn't making enough money alone to continue the piano lessons.


When I was little - about pre-school and older...maybe a little before...he used to play this game with me. The game was he would name a country and I would have to name the capital city. Or he would name the capital and I would name the country. By grade 1, I knew all the countries and capitals of the world - even countries that don't exist anymore. I could point out the smallest and obscure countries on the globe without a second thought....at grade 1, no less.

My advice to parents: Urge education as the first and foremost priority in your child's life. Make your children set goals and work towards them. If they want to quit, keep pushing them. When they are young, kids learn most from their parents. Influence your kids before their friends do. Don't wait until they are 16 years old before you give them the 'drug talk'. Do it when they are young so they know. It should apply to everything.
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