This is a follow-up to my previous editorial titled “Ron Paul Will Never Be President.” Maybe I should have been a psychic.


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Wolffe, on 5/10/2008 3:24:42 AM
Total Posts: 270, Joined: 2/26/2008
Thats it, I give up. Fuck this political shit. Fuck shoutwire. Fuck arrogant fucks, and fuck sheeple.

Fuck everybody! I will never debate again, I will never be involved with politics again.

As optomistic as I'd like to stay, I knew from the beginning ol'ron wouldn't be in.

Not because of "radical Ideas" (<-- which using the term 'radical' is so fucking bs), not because he sucked, but because of the elite doing everything in they're power (and quite easily I might add) making sure he wouldn't have a chance.

I am fucking SICKENED how the political systems are set up today. All you have to do is: DONT DO ANYTHING BY THE BOOKS OR BY THE CONSTITUTION, THIS IS BAD. Instead, lie, bribe, and cheat your way up as fast as possible and you'll get to be president one day, yay!

Fucking HORSE SHIT. Oh well, it doesn't matter. I've tried informing almost everyone I know about the coming doom, but nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. And they go on with they're daily lives with they're TV and they're Mc.Donalds and they're movies and games.

A once proud nation is every so slowly diving to it's knees, and nobody save for a few, nobody gives a fucking SHIT! And as the days go by and the elite people running the country and in turn the world get up and have they're $500 breakfast.

BUlshoy and the rest, you know it isn't really about small things like this anymore. Look around. Shit's happening that you cannot deny. Some of you fucks have been denying it for so long it's become second nature.

You know what, maybe the US deserves to be fascist. Maybe everybody deserves to be chipped, tracked, monitored. Maybe restriction of movement should happen. Maybe 0 freedom is a good thing. Hey maybe picking up where the Nazi's left off and exterminating half the world won't be so bad.

If I survive and if you survive it all, don't you fucking dare say "I had no idea this would happen". Because at first people like me were suggesting it. Then we were saying it (with proof). then we were yelling it. Then we were screaming it.

But alas, we were just "Nujobs", what did we know anyway. We're just a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists right? Were scum. We deserve to goto jail right? You want to beat us up don't you. Go ahead. It's far worse than whats coming you little prick.

Fuck this
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ParticleMan, on 5/10/2008 3:41:46 AM
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^^ nice rant coming from the guy w/ a nazi flag as an avatar.

bulshoy wrote:
Is that last night's episode? If so, don't waste the bandwidth :)


see, i knew you went crazy. maybe its the cold up there? shouldnt you guys be thawing out in a month or 2? i bet you'll come to your senses then!
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Hanafi, on 5/10/2008 5:26:11 AM
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I must say, that was a masterful rant Wolffe.
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Romanov, on 5/10/2008 10:27:07 AM
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mother should i run for president

mother should i trust the government
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bulshoy, on 5/10/2008 10:34:34 AM
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"and, Bulshoy, you don't really consider him your buddy."

I thought it was pretty clear that I was being condescending.

"We're just a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists right? Were scum. We deserve to goto jail right? You want to beat us up don't you. Go ahead. It's far worse than whats coming you little prick.

Fuck this"

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. According to your rant, you KNEW Paul didn't stand a chance, and you KNEW that America wouldn't embrace his changes. I simply pointed it out.

Don't blame me for pointing out democracy's (esp American-style) faults. It's YOUR countrymen who aren't exactly jumping up and down for sweeping changes. It is they who allow razzle-dazzle and slick lies to determine who they'll vote for. If anyone is to blame, it's the voting public for not making an informed decision before voting, and the non-voters for not turning up on election day.

You know ALWAYS votes? Old people. Religious nuts. Gun-toting rednecks. You know who NEVER votes? Idealistic young adults who are desperate for change, and whiners who are never satisfied with the government.

Ron Paul's campaign failed. Still, he did accomplish one thing - he got some of those whiny apathetic young adults off of their asses. And, he taught some valuable lessons for next time.

For example, we now know that an internet campaign alone cannot win an election. As has been plainly obvious since the mid 90s, things that are a big deal on the internet do not filter through to the public at large. A vast majority of people still do not use the internet as people like me and you do - your average Joe might check his email, the weather, shop or maybe read the news online, if that. I still know many,many people who either NEVER use the internet at all, or never use computers at all. They don't participate in online forums, spread internet memes, or use the internet as a primary means of information gathering and communication. Your message has to reach Joe Blow who is 50 and has worked a factory job for 30 years and has no need for the internet.

Second, we have now confirmed that people (esp. old people) hate change. There are still a lot more old adults out there than new adults, and they're more likely to vote. Therefore, THEY determine who will govern. The system has been the same ever since they've been alive. People like us (young, and I barely fit that category) are more likely to give a radical change a chance, because we haven't been around that long. Old people would rather not have their whole world rocked all of a sudden, no matter how good the changes will be. If this were not true, then there would be no such thing as a social conservative.

Also, I hope YOU learned something by reading this comment. Fiery, one-sided editorials that piss people off are a great method to get people talking. I would like to see changes too (not quite as dramatic as Americans), but i'm not going to support change for the sake of change. Some of what Ron Paul said isn't so bad, but banning abortions? Giving mental patients guns? I couldn't possibly support someone who would do that.

Some day the right candidate will come along. Someone who has a true vision, and is prepared to make radical changes. Canada had a guy like that once - Trudeau. Some people hate him and some love him, but haters have to give him one thing - he had a grand vision for Canada, and he had the balls to push it through. America needs a Trudeau. Thing is, when you DO get someone like that in power, somebody assassinates him...

Don't stop giving a shit. Don't stop voting. Don't stop discussing change and calling editorial writers pricks. If you do, then Ron Paul didn't just lose a primary - he lost utterly and completely. You'd be destroying the one good thing that came out of his campaign - making people like you give a shit.
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Trooper111k, on 5/10/2008 11:49:15 AM
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"Canada had a guy like that once - Trudeau(...)but haters have to give him one thing - he had a grand vision for Canada"

If you say utter assimilation of the country's founding minority is a grand vision, go for it. But don't assume "haters" see things like this.

Otherwise, I agree with the rest: Vote, or else you won't change anything.
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bulshoy, on 5/10/2008 12:36:42 PM
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^

If I mention anything nationalist, you'll disagree.

Trudeau DID have a vision for Canada, whether you agree with that vision or not. Yours is just a knee-jerk reaction to seeing the word Trudeau when the next word isn't "traitor."
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jackanape, on 5/10/2008 2:03:57 PM
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Bulshoy, you're from Eastern Canada right?

I don't think of Trudeau as a traitor at all. I understand his position and what he was trying to do. He didn't make a lot of friends out west here because of his actions, but he was well principled and did a lot to keep the country's values.

Actually Trudeau and Paul share similarities in that they both do/did things for the benefit of the people as a whole, regardless of the naysayers.
You can't please people all of the time, but if you do things with integrity, no one can slander that.

@ParticleMan:

Way to goad Wolfe over his comments. The best you can come up with is that he has a swastika as his icon. Even though he's already explained it in the past as not a racist issue.


@Trooper:

Yeah, because natives on reserves have it oh so well, don't they?
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ParticleMan, on 5/10/2008 8:03:10 PM
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jackanape wrote:
Way to goad Wolfe over his comments. The best you can come up with is that he has a swastika as his icon. Even though he's already explained it in the past as not a racist issue.


yes, that is the best i could come up with.
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Trooper111k, on 5/10/2008 8:21:51 PM
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"If I mention anything nationalist, you'll disagree."

Oh no, I assure you of the contrary. I'd be happy to agree with you saying positive nationalist things about Canada, like how great syrup or the beer is, or how much people are friendly (as long you aren't a Quebecker ;) ), but boasting about Trudeau'"vision" (whatever you call it) is very insulting to any Quebecker with any self-respect and you know it. Or maybe you didn't. At least, now you know.

And Trudeau wasn't a traitor, unlike what a majority of deeply nationalist Quebeckers think. You can't be a traitor, if you didn't betray a side. He never beleived himself as a Quebecker, hating the word and the idea. He never was one of ours.

"Yeah, because natives on reserves have it oh so well, don't they? "

My insinuation was about Quebeckers, not Natives Americans.

And your analogy between Paul and Trudeau made me laugh. Considering Trudeau's temper and socialist beleifs, being compared to some lousy libertarian would have made him mad.
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