This is a follow-up to my previous editorial titled “Ron Paul Will Never Be President.” Maybe I should have been a psychic.


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SUBVADER, on 5/12/2008 1:14:02 AM
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Clinton Obama or McCain?
FUCK THAT! I'm wasting my vote.
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Trooper111k, on 5/12/2008 10:27:37 AM
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I actually find CBC(the french one mind you) quite correct.

They're the best and most unbiased IMO, on most subjects anyways.

They're forced to speak about the rest of Canada and thus can show some pretty boring stories, but the others news channel speak about celebrities and the like instead, which is worst obviously.

And about the Ron Paul news blackout...I've heard about him on CBS when they talked about every candidates in both parties. Considering the very low popular support he got in polls, you can't expect to see documentaries about him. Considering it isn't our country, it's pretty normal they only spoke about the biggest contendors, Obama/Clinton for the Dems, and Mccain/Romney for the Rep.

Libertarians are a fringe group, it's normal they have a very minor, if inexistant media coverage. Do you see any media talking about the socialist parties of America? Or the Reform party? They should, a little. But they don't.
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jackanape, on 5/12/2008 11:48:31 AM
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@Trooper:

CBC at the time was doing an expose on all of the candidates. They did a little segment on all of the candidates except Paul and Kuccinich. They purposely lied about the whole underdog maverick thing.
They even mentioned the money bomb and accredited it to McCain.

If that's not deceptive, I don't know what is.
This was a few weeks before super tuesday, right when Paul's momentum was at it's peak.

Canadians don't know anything about him because our media doesn't cover the news like they should.

Btw, Paul is a Republican. His last election run was as a libertarian, which of course gets no coverage. He tried this time as a Republican because Americans think they have to vote for choice A or choice B, or they're wasting their vote on choice C.

"Considering it isn't our country, it's pretty normal they only spoke about the biggest contendors, Obama/Clinton for the Dems, and Mccain/Romney for the Rep."

Right, keep believing that. Do a google search on RP + whatever your local paper is. Do a search on Romney, Giuliani, or Huckabee. I'll bet you find more stories on them than you do on him, and golly, who is still in the race.

Besides, isn't the point of journalism meant to inform without bias?

The only one who even mentions Ron Paul is the Western Standard. Here's a story from a couple months ago. Read the comments wen you're done, and tell me if anyone up here actually understands the man's policies or positions.
Western Standard is fucking evil btw. They are the pro conservative mouthpieces who do their best to say 'fuck you' to the environment, environmentalists, and anyone who disagrees with big oil.

Note the tone of the story. Like all the rest, they make sure to mention that he can't win or even be a viable candidate.

Instead we get the same bullshit stories fed down the newswire from Washington.
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jackanape, on 5/12/2008 3:51:55 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEVuQa1lV8w
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Trooper111k, on 5/12/2008 4:20:39 PM
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"CBC at the time was doing an expose on all of the candidates. They did a little segment on all of the candidates except Paul and Kuccinich. They purposely lied about the whole underdog maverick thing.
They even mentioned the money bomb and accredited it to McCain.

If that's not deceptive, I don't know what is."

Well, I can't say, I watch CBS in french and I've found it far better than in english. And he got mentionned. As much as others fringe candidates that is.

"Btw, Paul is a Republican."

But he still follow libertarianism as an ideology. Thus, he isolate himself on the fringe.

"He tried this time as a Republican because Americans think they have to vote for choice A or choice B, or they're wasting their vote on choice C."

That was indeed the brightest thing to do.

"Right, keep believing that. Do a google search on RP + whatever your local paper is. Do a search on Romney, Giuliani, or Huckabee. I'll bet you find more stories on them than you do on him, and golly, who is still in the race."

Well of course, because people beleived Romney or Huckabee and even Giuliani(in the beginning) could win. RP may still be a candidate, but he's no more in the race, 'cause it's over. Mccain won.

"Besides, isn't the point of journalism meant to inform without bias?"

Not speaking about every candidate isn't bias. Canada doesn't hear about RP like it doesn't hear about Kunnich or Gravel. They won't win, so they don't lose their time speaking about them.

And I have to say the internet craze actually got into my local news paper, in the comment section that is. RP got mentionned several times, while Obama, Clinton or Mccain, never. Can't say those Paulites attracted any support with their ramblings thought.
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LeonHart, on 5/12/2008 8:39:21 PM
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Bulshoy '08
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fatedxcircle, on 5/13/2008 3:23:52 PM
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I hate America so I'm not voting. Shouted.
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jackanape, on 5/13/2008 4:47:45 PM
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"Not speaking about every candidate isn't bias. Canada doesn't hear about RP like it doesn't hear about Kunnich or Gravel. They won't win, so they don't lose their time speaking about them."

I thought it was for the people who decides who wins?

Was there some memo I missed saying so and so isn't viable? Since the very beginning, it's been the mainstream media parroting the idea that he can not, in no way, win.

I think it was Han Solo who said it best 'Never tell me the odds'.

Even by your responses, you trumpet the same defeatest message provided by FOX news anchors who *subtly ingrain artificial and manipulative statements.

*subtly meaning that if one isn't looking for it, they wouldn't notice it, but since I'm mentioning it, I'll give you a quick example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=herUw6FX4MI

Look at the questions the FOX announcers ask him. They interject ridiculous assertions that attacks would be imminent if he was in power. Listen to the FOX announcers laugh during his answers and tell me that is honest, impartial journalism.

It's nothing more than a trick. It is illusionary. Not real. False. Fake.

"I hate America so I'm not voting. Shouted."

Not even for McCain?
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Trooper111k, on 5/13/2008 7:05:02 PM
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"I thought it was for the people who decides who wins?"

The people of the United States. Their will is scanned throught polls.

"Was there some memo I missed saying so and so isn't viable? Since the very beginning, it's been the mainstream media parroting the idea that he can not, in no way, win."

It's simply unacceptable that America's medias don't speak about him. But here, it's Canada, not the US. 99% of Canadian listeners don't want to be bothered about each and every candidate in a foreign election. Hell, it's not even an election, it's primaries!

"you trumpet the same defeatest message"

If you're a libertarian, you must expect defeat. This is an ideology, like no other, that benefit to a very very small fringe group of society. Anarchy for the rich. Even then, these rich people prefer to limit their profit and live with the rule of law and thus to guarentee their assets. Libertarianism is doomed to fail.

Don't get me wrong, I love Ron Paul isolationist message. But everything else in his program is pure craziness.
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jackanape, on 5/13/2008 10:03:28 PM
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"The people of the United States. Their will is scanned throught polls."

Bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYiUAaBd1U


Tell me that isn't coercion.

"It's simply unacceptable that America's medias don't speak about him. But here, it's Canada, not the US. 99% of Canadian listeners don't want to be bothered about each and every candidate in a foreign election. Hell, it's not even an election, it's primaries!"

I don't know anyone really interested in the US elections, yet we get daily stories about them.

I don't know if you understand what the hell I've been talking about, or if you're purposely going out of your way to try and ignore it, but that's exactly what you're doing.

"If you're a libertarian, you must expect defeat. This is an ideology, like no other, that benefit to a very very small fringe group of society. Anarchy for the rich. Even then, these rich people prefer to limit their profit and live with the rule of law and thus to guarentee their assets. Libertarianism is doomed to fail.

Don't get me wrong, I love Ron Paul isolationist message. But everything else in his program is pure craziness."

Your entire statement pretty much confirms that you don't understand, or are purposely being obtuse.

He is running as a Republican. He says that every time some journalist parrot shouts libertarian at him. Say something enough and people tend to accept it as fact when it's nothing more than a catch phrase. Whazzuuuuup. Islamo fascism, insurgent, pre-emptive,isolationist.

Nonsense.

You have a brain. Use it to think for yourself. Grab a thesaurus and stop using the cliches and bargain-basement slander.

Where do you get isolationist from?
We're in Canada. Before Afghanistan's fuckup, do you think Canadians were isolationists too? We didn't have troops everywhere aside from the people who serve with NATO. It would be a waste of time to be sending troops all over to sit on their thumbs.

Anarchy for the rich?
I don't even know how you get that idea. Considering the tax breaks and fringe perks big business already gets, I'd say they already dominate a market that's devoid of laws anyways.



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