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As the frauds surrounding 9/11 unveil themselves the health issues are the first to show solid proof of the toxic powder hidden by government officials and swept under the carpet as the perpetrators earn bigger pay checks and better jobs while the workers shorten their lives with painful cancers.





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NoNovusOrdoSeclorum, on 12/8/2006 10:12:43 AM
Total Posts: 436, Joined: 5/9/2006
I'm starting to believe that this is policy.

When you're on top of the world, when you've given your all for a cause selflessly, and they see opportunity, man they are right there with you to prop you up even higher. Later when you need them most and they have nothing more to gain, you are left to die, coughing up blood and spitting out your teeth.

Then... a few years down the road, they will decide to erect a memorial for you, call you a hero again, and ask that you be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

That moment is when these bastards will give a shit.
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911eyewitness, on 12/8/2006 10:41:58 AM
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10,000's dying from the toxic waste is far from a theory; it is a fact as they line up to die. Those that gave the most will give more than they bargained for again while the peanut gallery tosses out porcelain chair logic.
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ParticleMan, on 12/8/2006 11:44:54 AM
Total Posts: 166, Joined: 12/5/2005
just like all the resot of the 911 conspiracy theories, there's no proof.
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oobymach, on 12/8/2006 12:20:06 PM
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yep, everybody loves fusion bombs. they last milliseconds, vaporize concrete and liquify steel all with much shorter radiation halflife then that of regular nukes.

of course the vaporized concrete does emit radioactive particles which have the downside of giving everyone in 10 square miles health problems that cut their lifetime by 10-15 years but hey, who cares since americans don't believe in fusion devices anyway. they'd all rather believe an airplane took down not only the 2 towers but also building 7 (which was brick and not hit by the planes).
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rcg, on 12/8/2006 1:28:06 PM
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@ParticleMan - just like all the resot of the 911 conspiracy theories, there's no proof.

And pray tell, particleman, what could we possibly present you with that in your wise opinion would constitute proof? And I don't believe you will give a full and complete answer because, truth-be-told, you don't want any proof - you goal is too "poo-poo" the proof that does in fact exist.

Anyhoo, I await the answer. But I wont be holding my breath.
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911eyewitness, on 12/8/2006 2:33:31 PM
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Tthis is about 8000 people who worked there under the "truth" that the government was good and told them the air was fine. It is proven a blatant lie. There is no conspiracy; there are dying people who all have the same non-conforming disease.

Each one of the perpetrators of the lie causing thousands to die is getting a bigger paycheck and bigger jobs instead of the payback they deserve.

Particle man and the rest get their payback as time after time these stories reach the front page on the top. Read it and weep boys, you are not getting your Christmas bonus!
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DawnOfTheDan, on 12/8/2006 3:31:40 PM
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"Over half dozen top doctors and epidemiologist have studied the workers and they concur that the likely cause was exposure to the toxins at Ground Zero."

Half dozen top doctors! Wow, that's specific enough for me!
And Randy Penn said it in an article on NewYorkConspiracyTV?
I'm convinced!
I can't imagine why anyone would need anymore proof than what is provided here. If they do, they must be a total Bush-loving facist sheep.

/dripping sarcasm
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ParticleMan, on 12/8/2006 6:28:50 PM
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"Over half dozen top doctors and epidemiologist have studied the workers and they concur that the likely cause was exposure to the toxins at Ground Zero."

toxins doesnt mean radiation. toxins could mean anything from lead paint to vaporized cleaning solutions.

"Particle man and the rest get their payback as time after time these stories reach the front page on the top. Read it and weep boys, you are not getting your Christmas bonus!"

you dont seem to get ther fact that i dont mind it's on the front page. if i didnt want ti there i wouldnt shout it (i forgot to rearlier, but have since).

just because i dont believe it, it doesnt mean it isnt newsworthy.
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911eyewitness, on 12/9/2006 1:24:35 AM
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The list of "toxins" is public record and contains some of the following:
"Radionuclides. We analyzed the gamma spectrum of the samples using an EG&G/Ortec high-purity Ge detector (50% relative efficiency) gamma counter (EG&G/Ortec Instruments, Inc., Oak Ridge, TN). We analyzed approximately 50 peaks based on statistical significance (counting/lack of interferences). These included thorium, uranium, actinium series, and primordial radionuclides." http://www.911eyewitness.com/truth/index.php?name=News&file=article&si
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All taken in the lungs by 100,000's of NYers. There was also an abundance of barium and it was lock stepped with thorium, which has significance, but the fact is these radioactives were in ALL dust. Just sit back particle man, take a breath, as those people didd, and think about it. That breath is all it took for all these people to loose 10 to 15 years off their lives for the lies the government gave them.

Now, you go have a nice day and keep believing in the jolly fat government Santa. It is the time of year for mythology, cults and subjugations to supernatural beings. Time some people (the REAL conspiracy nuts) celebrate their "faith" in unidentified mythological beings.
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ParticleMan, on 12/9/2006 10:36:23 AM
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while i do find that evidence compelling, it doesnt say where these radioactive toxins came from. there are other sources of radioactive materials other than government planted nuclear explosives.

also, do you think those men/women would have not gone and did what they did even if they knew there was a chance of something like this happening? they would have been there just as fast.

we should remember their heroics and look into this deeper. there are to many questions, even if there really was radioactive dust there. you cant just assume that it was government planted bombs. You're supposedly a 911 witness so you know how big those buildings were, those were 2 VERY LARGE building with ALOT of shit in them.
the first step would be to figure out what was in there and see if they had possible sources of radiation (medical equip?) these theories put the cart before the horse too much. you have to rule out ALL the mundane explainations before you can drop a big one on us like that (pun intended)
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