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Eyewitness: Watada Judge Panicked And Bailed   

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"According to reporter Bill Simpich in attendance at the trial, Lt. Ehren Watada exuded a calm and confidence that visibly shook the judge. It's easy to see why - if he would allow the defendant to present a case that the war is illegal, it could open the flood gates for over 150,000 troops to follow suit." This is a Clear Victory for the Good Guys - Shout It!


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Immaculate1, on 2/9/2007 3:16:32 PM
Total Posts: 1571, Joined: 7/16/2006
Nice to see how the legality of the war is about to be tested like this in court,

But ........ then .........

The judge declares a mistrial.

Which is

1. The pussy way out for the judge who doesn't wants to be put in a place where the whole of america and the rest of the world would look over his shoulders in a very sticky situation. A situation where he would have to supervise a possible negative outcoming for all american warmongers.

2. The pussy way out for america as a whole. No more trial, no more ability to question the legality of the war in Iraq. (WAR, rcg, not a wimpy 'occupation' because you like to fiddle with words^^)(I understand why you like to call it an occupation, because the use of the word opens up all kinds of legal possibilities towards the president).

3. Obstruction of justice. From what I read in the article the judge is clearly motivated to condemn Watada, and not in giving him a fair trial as an unbiased observer and judge. Then the trial goes into the wrong direction, and instead of fighting this question of legality to the bone, it just gets declared a mistrial, so it is basically thrown out of court. This declaration of mistrial basically means that Watada doesn't get the chance to officially justify his stance on the matter.

BECAUSE THE JUDGE AND THOSE BEHIND HIM ARE AFRAID OF TESTING WATADA'S JUSTIFICATION BY THEIR OWN COUNTRY'S LAWS.

The moment justice might be done the case simply gets thrown out of court. What better way to avoid justice?

This means there IS NO JUSTICE except for what the elite decides. If there was any justice this case wouldn't be declared a mistrial.


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rcg, on 2/9/2007 5:06:50 PM
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Immaculate1 - rcg, not a wimpy 'occupation' because you like to fiddle with words^^)(I understand why you like to call it an occupation, because the use of the word opens up all kinds of legal possibilities towards the president).

Do you even read the DICTIONARY? Alright, that's it, although I agree with you on many things, I am speaking FACTS/the hard TRUTH here and so I am laying down the gauntlet. I have given you the dictionary definitions, so it's time you for you to back up what you say. If this is not an "occupation", then tell me WHAT IS? Explain a military occupation to me. Define an occupation. Come on. Tell me why this is not an occupation. You wont do it, because you can't. If this is not an occupation, then what the F*ck is!? JFC!
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MosesBachman, on 2/9/2007 5:42:21 PM
Total Posts: 176, Joined: 1/24/2006
Of course its a Military Occupation, the US is just extending it Empire. America went to war without a UN mandate with Blair, under faulty intelligence even I was duped. It was for Oil, greater control in the Middle East and a foothold to Attack Iran, Syria. The US are spending Billions of Dollars Building Military bases in Iraq. Currently, the United States has upwards of 700 military bases at home and abroad. But chances are that the number of bases/places will exceed 1,000 by this decade's end, and most of the new ones will be established abroad. Thats Empire building in the modern age. Iraq is just one part of a much larger history of US military action under the banner of freedom for its own Political ends.


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CaptSurvival, on 2/9/2007 7:39:11 PM
Total Posts: 133, Joined: 10/27/2006
ok rcg, i shouted as i think the Lt was brave, and certainly seems to have an excellent grasp of his oath, and to whom he owes his allegiance.

It will be very interesting to see how this case resolves itself, as it seems the Lt and his legal team are confident they have a strong legal position, and many outside observers apparently share that opinion.
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rcg, on 2/9/2007 11:26:00 PM
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thanks immac, moses, and capt!

btw, my 15 year old son and I were talking about this today and he remarked that if America were attacked he wouldn't hesitate to grab a gun and fight; he also said that he would like to join the military because he thinks fighting in a war would be fun (which made me itching to smack him upside his head), but he added that after all the lies about Iraq he would never go to another country and fight - because he has lost all confidence that it would be a just war...yada...yada...yada

Sigh... bush has really deeply hurt our country and in so many immeasurable ways.
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EvaUnitZero, on 2/10/2007 3:01:55 AM
Total Posts: 2672, Joined: 2/8/2006
The US refers to it as a military occupation too, probably because...it is (you know, that's costing billions and allied lives whilst the Irakis get their asses in gear). Calling it a military occupation and then expecting to people to run around in tight circles mumbling, 'Ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod-' is rather naive, as is expecting the same reaction from telling people that rain falls from the sky.
'Whaa - from the sky? Oh holy fuck, we're all going to die...world war four has started...' And so on.
Er...where was I? Oh right, the article. Incredible! Fantastic! Who'd've thought that they could bungle such a straightforward thing? My stars. Maybe this guy who refused to...do his job, has got Johnnie Cochran's ghost representing him or something. You never know.
You say it was illegal, I say it wasn't, we'll both cite UN Security Council Resolution 1441 as evidence to support our corresponding arguments. You'll reach an impasse there, I'll proceed to the present time, which is a whole different state of affairs, and then we'll load up on controlled substances and go skydiving. Bingo-bango, job's a good 'un.
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Fido, on 2/10/2007 3:22:30 AM
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As interesting as the trial would have been and potentially may still be, the court doesn't have the capacity to rule on the legality of a war.

I think the Judge declared a mistrial knowing by law he had no choice but to rule against Watada as the case was being presented. Believing that the defendant hadn't grasped that fact he declared the mistrial.

I'm sure part of it was the unpleasantness that the trial would create, and for now it's gone away.









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M4H, on 2/10/2007 6:27:40 AM
Total Posts: 232, Joined: 12/19/2006
ummm ya,

So because a draft dodging (or) deserter hides his shame and cowardice in a claim that "the war is illegal" you all think he is right?

Regardless if you think they lied to you about the cause for war,battles will always be waged,this one constant will never change -till one king holds all the pieces

the end.
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Stylborn, on 2/10/2007 6:35:47 AM
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If humans have been successful at proving anything, it's that no "one king" can ever be worthy at holding them. With human beings, concentration of power of any kind - and that includes modern "governments" - only leads to corruption and evil.
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SFCB, on 2/10/2007 10:19:45 AM
Total Posts: 589, Joined: 1/27/2006
The judge didn't declare a mistrial over the objections of the prosecution and defendant. The prosecution requested a mistrial and the judge granted the request.

The charges have already been refiled and a new trial date is set for 12MAR.

I suppose it shouldn't surprise me that the "reporter" who is the source for the OpEd News story would make such a basic mistake like who requested a mistrial. Bill Simpich isn't actually a reporter, but instead a lawyer for Truthout.org, who is representing Truthout because it's been subpeonaed by the prosecution for records pertaining to the charges Watada faces. This is like having Marcia Clark give her opinion on the events of OJ's trial.
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