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LithuanianLabourer, on 1/20/2009 10:57:48 AM
Total Posts: 404, Joined: 3/1/2007
Well, the banks are surely popping worldwide this week. Riots in the most fucked nations. And the worst is still ahead.
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waffleman, on 1/20/2009 9:10:01 PM
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I've just read that the entire US Banking System is effectively Insolvent.
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damasterwc, on 1/20/2009 10:45:56 PM
Total Posts: 225, Joined: 5/30/2006
yep... ur both right. it's time for a well structured bankruptcy cuz the size of the default exceeds the entire global economy. if they took all the money everyone in the world had we'd only be 5% there... this "debt" is entirely BS... we need to seize this historic opportunity to completely destroy imperialism.
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Beelzebub, on 1/21/2009 4:04:12 PM
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^ And replace it with what? Have you considered how much of an impossible job it is to shut down and restart the world wide financial sector? Let alone that nobody knows what to replace it with! Its just not going to happen. We got into this shit by deregulation and the belief in laizes faire economics and the only thing this will do is bring in more regulations and control over banks behaviour. What we will see is another great depression which will weed out maybe 40 - 60 % of companies (insolvent) and the resulting financial ripples. Luckily Australia is pretty insulated from the world and we wont suffer anywhere near as much as the USA.
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waffleman, on 1/21/2009 4:37:55 PM
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I think were going to see a world depression anyways. Too many foreign Banks and Companies got sucked into purchasing shares in the US Bubble economy. They're going down with the US for this mistake.

The Governments who are bailing out these companies are just transferring this debt to us Taxpayers. So now we end up with a bunch of White Elephants that the Governments will have to continually prop up at the taxpayers expense,not to mention higher taxes we'll have to pay for the bailouts

The US government could have used the trillion dollar bailout in a far more effective way. Why not say fuck you to the banks who screwed up, and invest the trillion plus of taxpayers money into US Banks that were smart enough not to screw up. These competent banks will be dragged down by the larger incompetent Banks as they share resources with each other for loans and other ventures.

Why not infuse the capital directly into the competent Banks, bypass the losers,and let them go Bankrupt! The competent banks will prosper! The Taxpayers can deal with competent Banks instead of White Elephants, and the Government will be assured to eventually get this investment back, with interest.
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finalflash, on 1/21/2009 4:38:39 PM
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^^That is why there will be no "orderly" restructuring of anything. When the money disappears, it will be the poor who will be loaded with the burden (the bailouts are the beginning of that). The rich will once again try to get out alive and this time, you can't partially blame a world war for the depression. This "depression" will be caused by greed and ignorance alone, and there is no orderly fixing of those. Eventually, the entire system as we know it will collapse and a world war or cataclysmic restructuring of the world can't be far away.
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damasterwc, on 1/21/2009 5:59:58 PM
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it's simple. fdr did it. banking holiday, freeze everything. then you go about paying all debts relating to the physical economy only. fuck the virtual economy, it's only a casino anyway.

when building the new system based on fixed exchange rates with russia, china, india, (and japan and south korea) you will only include things that have to do with and directly affect the well being of the people that live on this planet.

we will have plenty of resources to rebuild the world, but if we continue to do the bankers bidding we are going to inflate ourselves out of existence.
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GaaaaaH, on 1/25/2009 12:28:28 AM
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Beelzebub wrote:
^ And replace it with what? Have you considered how much of an impossible job it is to shut down and restart the world wide financial sector? Let alone that nobody knows what to replace it with! Its just not going to happen. We got into this shit by deregulation and the belief in laizes faire economics and the only thing this will do is bring in more regulations and control over banks behaviour. What we will see is another great depression which will weed out maybe 40 - 60 % of companies (insolvent) and the resulting financial ripples. Luckily Australia is pretty insulated from the world and we wont suffer anywhere near as much as the USA.

also the howard govt. set us up pretty well to last it by having regulations as well as a massive surplus to take some of the blow
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Beelzebub, on 1/25/2009 2:24:06 AM
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^controlled inflation is an entirely natural occurence and not a concern. As long as inflation is less than about 7% p.a. there is no concern at all and it can be ignored. So long as the real interest rate is lower than inflation you encourage economic growth and a prosperous economy. For this reason the USA is now deliberately going to increase inflation (by printing money) as it cant drop the reserve rate below 0 when it does actually need to be below 0 for this correction. Once this problem is over a highly controlled inflation rate would lead to healthy economic growth.

The current problem is due to clinton removing restrictions on the financial sector which built up bad debts. The current problem is directly linked to 'laizes faire' economic theories rather than the current economic theory. The banks should never have been allowed to self regulate. Our whole western world is built on checks where one party is always responsible to another (politically and economically) and yet clinton thought it was reasonable to remove these security precautions. What a dick.
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RiotHero, on 3/20/2009 3:21:12 AM
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There are far to many people who had a hand in this to point fingers at anyone person. All the way down to the consumer that signed the mortgages based off false stated incomes knowing damn well they could never afford them. You can argue that banks should have not been able to make the loans but people make their own choices and have to have some sort of personal responsibility. Without a drug habit there would be no drug dealers but people still make the choice at some point to start taking drugs.

Owning a home is the American dream it is never stated anywhere that it is an American right.
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