On Iran, From an American Iranian

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On Iran, From an American Iranian

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Current protests and some history on Iran

I have an Iranian background, so throughout my life I've been bombarded with opinions on the country. Not only that, both my parents were involved in the late 70's revolution, and saw youth that helped Khomeini get to power being shot down by Khomeini's followers afterwards. That's the problem with revolutions, sometimes a power vacuum can destroy what could be a beautifull transformation. On top of that, I have dual citizen ship, and voted in the last election, which makes me want to join in the protest. A lot of people are speculating on what will happen in Iran, but what we have to remember is this will change global politics. Iran and the U.S have mostly severed ties, with good reasons too. The U.S has a very dirty history with Iran, if you look into the history, you will see that the Shah, the Mullahs, would not be a problem if it wasn't for U.S involvement. At the same time we must understand that many Iranian's admire American values and would love to travel to the U.S, and some do. Israel is looking at this quite hypocritically, saying the support the protests, calling Iran the greatest threat to peace (Hypocracy at it's worst, just look at last Januarary). It is very obvious Nentanyahu has different intentions. The protests are very much justified, but I think Obama should keep his distance, as well as other countries, this is Iran's own protest, noone elses, involvement for personal interest will kill not help. Iranians themselves are split in a few ways in solution, I've known Iranians (stupid Iranians) who want Reza Pahlevi to be the president, the reason you see him on television crying is very different then the intentions he has. These are crocadile tears, his intentions are to inherit the money left to the next Shah of iran, and some iranians are desperate and stupid enough to buy into him. What people really want to know is, will there be a revolution? Yes, it's very likely, the current government has dug itself into a hole it can't crawl out of. It's done too much for Iranians just to forgot, which leaves two options, an obvious clear dictatorship taking over, or revolution. Revolution is most likely, the government has no support from the military or the police, only from their own secret police and guards. Yes blood will be shed, but as Mousavi "We've learned from our fathers that the blood of the innocent will drown the oppressors". I only hope Iranian's don't put a new khomeini in charge, or Pahlavi, but I think we won't see anything like that. Expect change soon, this revolutionary movement is moving much quicker then the previous.

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Boris2k, on 6/28/2009 6:09:31 AM
Total Posts: 141, Joined: 12/18/2005

i can say, with great certainty, that there will be a foreign "peace keeping" force deployed, and there always will be until people realize that shit dont work

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HHHRatedv1, on 6/28/2009 9:34:18 AM
Total Posts: 80, Joined: 8/5/2006

boris, you're dumbfuck retard. what the FUCK are you talking about? Who will deploy the peace keeping force? The west sure as hell won't. We're not gonna fucking leave Iraq just for a presence in Iran, and any western presence there will just cause everyone there to go apeshit. Next thing you know, al quida will start a front in that country.

I hope you choke on a dick and die you dumbfuck ignorant cunt.

that is all.
kthx

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damasterwc, on 6/28/2009 9:35:27 AM
Total Posts: 461, Joined: 5/30/2006

yep this is a media operation... they're trying to set the grounds for ground forces one way or another. unplug all your tvs, and be mindful of what you read on the net too. twitter is massively well funded and becoming the same as the media.

look no further for the source of conflict within iran than the british. it was they that asked the traitor truman to overthrow the democratically elected gov't of iran that recently nationalized the oil fields. it was they that had the genocidal nuke-em truman set up the shah.

how hard is it for you guys to accept that imperialism is alive and well and at work right now in iran?? the british empire never died... it moved into the "markets"

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vaj3000, on 6/28/2009 2:07:17 PM
Total Posts: 57, Joined: 8/22/2008

Loleveryone know the yanks and brits are bankrolling the dissent

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cadpig, on 6/28/2009 2:27:07 PM
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Everybody is keeping their distance from iran.

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BlueMarlin1, on 6/28/2009 11:29:53 PM
Total Posts: 90, Joined: 8/13/2008

shouted, keep the opinions coming. its nice to not hear some CNN correspondant who read about iranian history in a book somewhere and formulates their own opinion from a limited bank of knowledge.

I agree with you, I believe Obama should maintain a safe distance so the Iranian government cannot attempt to galvanize the crowds into his favor with anti-Americanism (did i just make that word up?) - that would just be pulling a mask over the real problem.

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printz0r, on 6/29/2009 2:47:45 AM
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It was President Washington who warned future Presidents not to entangle with European affairs. Furthermore, around the world, U.S. involvement should stop. We might seek internal interests to military occupation, but this internal interest only benefits a small percentage of America. And at what cost? The cost we pay for military occupation are burdened to the poor. The majority of the infantry are poor. The cost the rest of the world pays are a lot more cataclysmic, and their retaliation may inflict future hostility towards us. Join the world peace movement.

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EvilConservative, on 6/29/2009 9:23:10 AM
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I basically agree that we need to stay out of the affairs of other nations, but that would require standing by while people are being oppressed and tormented. The US is basically screwed either way. If we do intervene in a situation like the one in Iran, then we are imperialist jerks interfering in the affairs of another nation. If we do not step in, then we are heartless greedy jerks for standing by and doing nothing while innocent people seeking freedom from a crushingly oppressive theocracy are murdered and tortured wholesale. Basically the common thread is that the US is always the badguy…

I wonder if BILLIONS of dollars worth of Aid cargo we send across the world qualifies as meddling in the affairs of other nations???

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Mango, on 7/3/2009 10:27:54 AM
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@EvilConservative

No, see, the billions of dollars of aid cargo we send to Muslim countries that mostly gets recycled into terrorism is called "Jizya". It's only when we try to stop sending them money because of their vicious and atrocious behavior that it qualifies as "meddling".

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the4thwall, on 7/8/2009 7:54:00 PM
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EvilConservative wrote:
I basically agree that we need to stay out of the affairs of other nations, but that would require standing by while people are being oppressed and tormented. The US is basically screwed either way. If we do intervene in a situation like the one in Iran, then we are imperialist jerks interfering in the affairs of another nation. If we do not step in, then we are heartless greedy jerks for standing by and doing nothing while innocent people seeking freedom from a crushingly oppressive theocracy are murdered and tortured wholesale. Basically the common thread is that the US is always the badguy…

I wonder if BILLIONS of dollars worth of Aid cargo we send across the world qualifies as meddling in the affairs of other nations???

Yes it is, so called aid to many countries which it is sent to is used badly by the government it is given to. For example: Kenya. Poverty is rampid because of the government's oppression, and we send aid. That aid is taken by the government and never reaches the people, only making them more powerfull. Even food and clothes are taken.

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