ShoutWire TV

28

Shouts

Shout it

0

Bashes

Bash it

Nail in The Coffin   

   Posted by damasterwc  Promoted 312 days 5 hours ago  1742 views

    Politics / US Politics  |   Comments 6 comments  | 

  • Stumble it!
  • Facebook

Final Baucus Hearing Puts Nail In The Coffin

May 13, 2009 (LPAC)—The third and final "roundtable" discussion on "Financing Health Care Reform," led by Senate Finance Committee chair Max Baucus, was held Tuesday, and had as its major concern the selling of the austerity program, as developed by Peter Whorebag's White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the Dartmouth Institute. Present were a gaggle, or better said, a murder (as in crows) of health-care accountants, all operating on the presumption that care would be cut, and that a way must be found to sell this to the population without getting lynched.

All witnesses, and elected officials alike, demonstrated a working knowledge of the Dartmouth Institute's Wennberg study of comparative care, and argued not whether, but how to "level" the health-care financial field. If everyone is to get coverage, then "expectations" have to be lowered — no more freedom of choice on doctors, treatment, etc. Also proposed was a regulatory authority to approve health care, modelled on the British Health Quality Committee, an agency that polices the medical profession and punishes any doctors that give too much medical care—beyond the specified guidelines. Also prominent was a study on "comparitive medicine" by the Kurt Lewin Institute of Social Psychology in the Netherlands.

Euphemisms like "mechanisms to drive costs down," and "bend the cost curve" (a favorite of chairman Baucus) were at a premium as participants "acknowledged" two things: that Medicare (an effective model of government administered privately delivered care) was "old fashioned... out of date," and otherwise "not a usable model," and that now would begin a "transition" period to a new model. None could testify to this better than Gail Wilensky, whose government health-care experience dates back to Bush 41, when she served as head of the Health Care Finance Administration. Wilensky's caution was that we were at a "breakthrough moment," but that the administration needed to "manage expectations" of the public, one of many allusions to the entire behavioral crowd around Larry Summers.

One of the first ideas mentioned, by ranking member Charles Grassley, was that the tax exemptions for charitable and non-profit hospitals be cancelled. Others thought that "life style" taxes—on booze (and fatty foods?)—would be good, or maybe increased deductions or exemptions for low blood pressure or sugar levels. As with many HMOs, the citizenry would be separated into "groups" (overweight, cancer-prone) and health care meted out on that basis. Wilensky lamented "how medicalized are the last six months of life," and also made the point that it was fine and good to make healthy suggestions, but, at some point, the physicians would have to be "disciplined" directly.

At the start of the hearings, the members of the Health Care for All network (of pro HR 676 One Payer activists) staged an intervention, with one after another standing up until they were dragged out. Chairman Baucus offered repeated (paternal?) assurances that "You'll have your say," but, if the tone of this hearing is any guide, it will be a short day, long in the future. The demonstrators are part of a nationwide mobilization for John Conyers' single-payer legislation, that would, in effect, extend Medicare to all Americans and all people living in the United States. This coalition is holding demonstrations in Washington and around the country on May 14, so be on the lookout. It is the public wrath against these paper-pushing genocidalists that is what Baucus was clearly afraid of, in his efforts to propitiate the demonstrators.





Comments

These comments in RSS.
Comment View Threshold:
shinrhys, on 5/14/2009 10:18:58 AM
Total Posts: 249, Joined: 5/13/2006
shame the greed of people gets in the way of progress..

the NHS is great. that's my opinion, and i've relied on it many, many times.

I'm sure the homeless people that've had the world shit on them also feel the same way..
 |  Comment Score: Neutral  |  Edit Comment
avatar
damasterwc, on 5/14/2009 4:03:56 PM
Total Posts: 364, Joined: 5/30/2006
^^ but they deny treatments that are too costly. if the USA would extend medicare to all, that wouldn't be the issue, cuz cutting the HMOs out of the picture saves $350 billion per year.
 |  Comment Score: Neutral  |  Edit Comment
shinrhys, on 5/15/2009 4:25:46 AM
Total Posts: 251, Joined: 5/13/2006
yeah that's fair enough, but i feel it a small price to pay to ensure that everyone can receive good health care (it is good care by the way, don't listen to the hype - if you have anything serious you're rushed through the system). I don't really know anything about HMOs I'm afraid.. so the cost thing I can't really comment on.

and besides, if you want the best treatment available, you can just get a private health company to help you out, like bupa or something.. it's just a shame the people on these services don't get their equivalent tax back for not using the NHS (as far as I know)
 |  Comment Score: Neutral  |  Edit Comment
avatar
damasterwc, on 5/15/2009 9:40:28 PM
Total Posts: 365, Joined: 5/30/2006
ya but all treatment should be "as good as" private care. in the USA we have an equivalent of such, and it's called medicare. it's publicly financed but privately delivered. the politicians hate it because it's so efficient and threatens their best buds ripping us off in the insurance companies. overhead for private insurance is 30-50% per year, and medicare overhead is just 2%. i just heard a report that the brit health service won't pay for two new life saving cancer drugs.

we really need to smack down private pharma and private health care in general.
 |  Comment Score: Neutral  |  Edit Comment
avatar
damasterwc, on 5/17/2009 12:59:35 PM
Total Posts: 368, Joined: 5/30/2006
If comparative effectiveness research is adopted in the U.S. the way it has been operating in Britain since 1999, it will kill thousands, warns Dr. Karol Sikora, a top British oncologist, in an op-ed originally published on May 12 in New Hampshire's Manchester Union-Leader. Dr. Sikora reports that as a practicing oncologist, he is forced to give patients older, cheaper medicines. "The real cost of this penny pinching is premature death for thousands of patients-and higher overall health costs than if they had been treated properly: Sick people are expensive." Effective cancer treatments that are widely available in Continental Europe are prohibited in Britain by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence. The result is, as shown by research by the Karolinska Institute of Sweden, that British cancer patients have lower survival rates than those in Sweden. "We are stuck with Soviet-quality care, in spite of the government massively increasing health spending since 2000 to bring the United Kingdom into line with other European countries."

"The risks of America's move toward British-style drug evaluation are clear," Sikora concludes. "In Britain, it has harmed patients. This is one British import Americans should refuse."
 |  Comment Score: Neutral  |  Edit Comment
MongoCutWood, on 5/18/2009 5:29:17 PM
Total Posts: 1, Joined: 5/18/2009
There is no such thing as Free Health Care. Someone pays for it. Most likely everyone through higher taxes.

I don't want the government telling me I have to die to save them and their corporate lobbyists money. I fail to see how the US government, with all of it's corrupt politicians, can do a better job than the private sector.
 |  Comment Score: Neutral  |  Edit Comment
Comments per page: 10

Post your comments

 

Your Message:

This system allows you to use html-like tags in replacement of HTML. These tags are easier to use and are widely supported on messageboard systems.

HTML DISABLED
CODE DISABLED

 

You must be a registered user in order to post comments.
Please sign in or create a new account.

XxoozerobulshoyDockZaWolvenHockeyGodVaMpIrEF00DDeadmanspointJustXquincy0191SteelyDanBebichanReagannodnarb232001LifeRiotFidoAdamnesssailirish7ThisisJeffKhramGodsSontimekeeperRomanov
Shoutwire channels
Back at The Batcave
 1 views
 15 shouts
 0 bashes
posted by GaaaaaH
Eyes Never Lies
 2 views
 15 shouts
 3 bashes
posted by kailashk
Guys
 0 views
 15 shouts
 0 bashes
posted by AliceC
Happy V.D.
 0 views
 15 shouts
 1 bashes
posted by RiotHero

FlikThe Beginning (day One)
body { font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px; width: 545px; } div.mine p { text-align: justify; } .avat { text-align: center; float: left; margin: 0px; margin-right: 10px; border: 2px solid black; } Date: The Beginning (day one) Current mood: Creative Listening to: Phil Collins - Another Day in Paradise Posted by:THE_ONE After having been harassed interminably by all the other deities, I have finally deigned t...

DeadmanspointAbout The Seldom Things
Now, before I go any further let me make the observation that I shall not follow the title nor the description of this piece.As much as needs be served by a common comma.  Or a stripe begging for another one.  In my journeys, as seldom as they are, I have found a common virtue.  That virtue is a simple pattern... But all seize it, and all know it well.  For it is the definition before the act.  It is why and who and when and that t...